What kind of screw should I use? Woodworking Basics


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Stephan Pöhnlein
Nails are stronger than you think. This can be confirmed by anyone who has ever taken a pallet apart.
DIY Montreal
wow, I'm shocked at how quickly you flew past square drive screws! I was sure that's what the whole speech was leading up to. lol, guess that's cause I'm from Canada. You're right, we swear by square heads here!
TRX VLOGGER
Slot head screws need to be illegal!
Orxenhorf
Seriously... I want your hardware store.
Johnnyy 69
Where is my totally unexpected Microjig introduction? :_(
Dadgum it
It's a bolt! No, it's a screw! No, it's a--- microjig maker of the GRRRiper
Scott Nelson
No, we argue about BOLTS! ;-)
Ian Atkinson
Is pozidrive (PZ rather than PH) not common in the States? In the UK these are the most common screws I think, they engage a lot better than the traditional Phillips screws. You don't see so many torx screws here though I'm sure you can get them, we sometimes use them at work with the little pole in the middle of the head which are described as security screws. One thing I've never really understood is how some screws you need to drill a hole to avoid splitting the wood and others are advertised as not needing a pilot hole and you can drive them straight in with no splitting. They must both push the wood apart a bit when they go in and no material comes out of the hole?
Daniel Console
I watched the whole thing expecting MICROJIG, MAKER OF THE GRIPPER to pop at me like some sort of ptsd
Turk3YbAstEr
Screws will probably never replace nails when it comes to framing and construction work. Screws have to be harder, and therefore more brittle. Nails can handle shear stresses much better and will typically flex and bend before failing. I've never seen a nail snap while hammering it in, but I have seen screws snap before.
jayhawkkilroy
As a machine screws myself, this video is hurtful to me. "Machine screws have no points." Oh wait... He said points not point. My bad, as a machine screws, I'm a little dull. Carry on
Art T.
Yes! More basics videos! Your the ONLY knowledgeable person on YouTube who makes them with amazing quality editing/content. I think we can all agree. Well except the trolls of course. But anyway, I’m getting started in all this woodworking and made your BMW. I love it & use it all the time. But these basics videos is what helps me not waste money buying inferior or incorrect sundries and tools. Thanks Steve!
Got2LoveAmerica
Duct tape master race.
Hayden Nigro
This man is the Gordon Ramsey of woodworking
oneswolf
So......when is it a screw and not a bolt? Or is a bolt a kind of screw?
The Real Hal Jordan
I don't why standard wood screws all come in partially thread. Maybe to save on milling, but I'd like an option for all thread small wood screws even if they cost a little more, without buying stainless steel or marine screws
Dukefazon
No microjig?
Hugatry's HackVlog
Very detailed and thorough video! When it comes to screws, I've had two life changing discoveries. First one was finding out that some "Phillips screws" aren't actually Phillips screws, but Pozidriv instead. Using Pozidriv (PZ) bits for Pozidriv screws and Phillips (PH) bits for Phillips screws helps a lot. Seconds one was the Torx screw. Oh boy! I don't remember what I was making, but I do remember the feeling when I noticed how great Torx screws are!
David Tingley
FYI, the reason that Robertson socket-head screws (which is what Peter Robertson, the inventor, called them) aren't as widely available in the USA as they are in places like New Zealand and Australia: Robertson's invention was patented in Canada in 1909, well before the Philips screw. Robertson insisted on maintaining an exclusive patent on his invention. He wanted to make a lot of money making them, and have control over the quality of every screw and driver. The US military took a very close look at this invention, which at the time it came out was orders of magnitude better than the only competition; slot head screws. There were no Philips, Torx or star screws at that time. The American military brass loved the Robertson system, BUT.. ..the rub was that there was a procurement regulation in place that they couldn't accept any basic equipment that wasn't either available from a 'secure' American source, or from at least two sources. This makes a LOT of sense. You don't want to make a bunch of equipment and then find that you can't maintain it because the source dries up or refuses to sell you the parts you need. In retrospect, I think that Robertson was extremely short-sighted not to license his invention to an American manufacturer, and just collect the royalties. And I'm saying that as a Canadian who absolutely loves them. When I buy American goods that come with Philips-head screws supplied, I often head directly to the hardware store to see if I can replace them with square-head screws. They're invaluable on jobs where you have to drive a lot of screws upward into wood, as I did most recently a few years ago replacing soffits around my house. You put the screw on the end of the driver, and it stays there. Then you just screw it in, as easy as pie.
Remigiusz Marcinkiewicz
Two notes: 1. Yes, Philips screw head was designed to cam out, and to do that at a specific torque, but stay centered on the fastener. This helps in quick assembly as the driver does not jump out in a random direction and mar the surface, but still cams out in a predictable and easily detected manner. It was an important factor back when electric drills/drivers did not have an adjustable clutch and fasteners were made of lower quality steel, resulting in snapped screw heads. It's less important now, as you can set your cordless drill to cam out internally at a given torque and advances in metallurgy allow very strong fasteners to be mass-produced cheaply. 2. There absolutely definitely should be a note on Pozidriv heads and how they differ from Philips. They were designed to *not* cam out (at least, not until a much higher torque is achieved) when a Pozidriv driver is used, but can still be driven with Philips bits if necessary. HOWEVER, the reverse is absolutely not true. Using a Pozidriv driver on a Philips head is a very efficient way to destroy both and get frustrated at a mediocre result. Being able to tell the difference and remember it at all times is very important as Philips and Pozidriv screws and drivers are both prevalent and often mixed by people who think they're the same thing.
eventualentrophy
SCREW this video.... :)
Javo A. C.
Machine screws are pointless
Lucid Moses
I think the idea of wood workers using a lot of nails comes from non-wood workers basically only seeing house framing where they do use a lot of nails.
Eric Singleton
Glad to see you! You've been missed! Great info!
Chuywaka
People will argue over everything
Rubix 1976
Bolts are what Mr Frankenstein had through his neck, there solved. 😆
Bear Thompson
First one of your vids I’ve seen. One of the best instructional videos I’ve seen on ANY subject! Focused (ie, on topic), thorough for the intended audience, efficiently presented without seeming rushed, and very relatable for this woodworking novice. I always thought camming out when driving Phillips screws was due to my own inexperience and have been very frustrated with ruined heads and driver tips. I also definitely relate to and appreciated your comment re: big box hardware chains. Locally, we have lost a smaller community store and will soon have a Home Depot and Lowe’s right next to each other! Thanks for a great vid!
Jason C.
Those square drive work really good in pocket holes.
Luis Sonoma
Love the video. I know your tried to make it brief but something you mentioned made me think about Phillips, how they were made to intentionally slip after it's intended Torque. I think this may be true to some Philip screw. If you want a screw and screw driver that won't slip then JIS(Japanese Industry Standard) would be used. I don't think its used for wood working. I ran into it when I was repairing a dirt bike (Honda); so I assume that its mostly used for machinery. The screws are marked by a single indentation on the corner of the screw head and its associated bits/drivers tend to have a more square/flat look and feel to them apart from the JIS label. I though it was worth mentioning it even though its off topic.
Daily Life with Kimberly
Who would have thought it? A video on screws, was perfect! Thank you for explaining them, I really needed this video. Perfect description with a great flow throughout the entire video. 👍
Calvin Williams
Thanks. ... I just graduated screw U. Meant to be a joke not mean. Your videos are great.
Jordan Wright
Awe man no cheesy micro jig spot...
SHUN WANG
lots of lots of good information about..... Micro jig.... I get you Steve
Ian Steele
In the UK Pozidriv screws are more common than Phillips. They are very similar but don’t cam out as easily. Not sure if you have them in US but they are well worth seeking out.
Nuke Terrorist Israel!!!
What about chewing gum and bandaids wtf!!!!
Robin Lewis
Some really interesting points, great video Steve
Michael Richardson
Steve I have been recovering from total knee replacement surgery and am now 6 weeks out and recovering nicely. During these past 6 weeks I made some life changing decisions regarding how I wanted to spend my retirement. At 72, I have a few more productive years left before I decide to turn my law practice over to my son. But not being able to predict the future, I wanted to start now to develop my skills as a woodworker so that I can fill my retired days doing something useful. During my recovery I found sleeping to be almost impossible at times and have often pulled out my iPad and watched woodworking videos. Yours are some of the most enjoyable ones I have found. You manage to convey necessary skills in a way that is both entertaining and insightful. There may be more skilled woodworkers out there, more elaborate shops, better equipment, and so forth but few channels convey the warmth, humor, and I think, the general caring about the craft as does yours. Keep up the great work. It may not bring about world peace but you may bring about some inner peace among us mere mortals. Yes I have enrolled in your weekend woodworker course and look forward to the day I can get back in my shop and stand on two good legs. Thanks again.
MFeinstein
It would be great if you could explain more why some screws have the shank with no threads, what's the purpose of it? I believe it's for increasing the pull of the screw from the end board and so it won't be fixed to the top board, but I am not sure about it.
suit1337
Interresting to see your US perspective on this Topic in Europe you'll pretty much by the same types of screws, with a few exceptions drywall screws work the same - Philips Other wood screws were pretty much replaced by screws with Pozi-Driv (the Philips-Successor) or Torx Machine Screws use metric ISO threads and all of it is easier to understand, if you just think about it without knowning the standard and again i must say, i really love the way it works in europe here - #8 screw, x Threads per Inch and all those nutso rollercoaster Standards are very weird to "learn" if you are not used to - the Unified Thread Standard is just bonkers if you buy a woodscrew in europe and you need a screw with a diameter of 4,5 mm and a lenght of 50 mm you'll just buy a 4,5x50 screw - done, in the us you need to know that a #8 screw has around 0,16 Inch - the Unified Thread Standard is not even derived from the Inch, nor the mm Same goes for machine screws - if you have an 8 mm hole and need a bolt that is 70 mm Long, just buy an M8x70 mm Screw - done in the Unified Thread Standard even the Thread Pitch and the Numbering is inconsistend - #n below 1/4" and up in fractions in ISO threading you can calculate everything by a common formula if you want
Ali Maleki
Steve I’m really jealous of you; that hardware selection is amazing. I have to rely on the big box stores where (as you pointed out) there are zero employees within screaming distance!
Tim Michael
Nailed it! Great video Steve. For the basic intents and purposes I tend to agree with your distinction between bolts and screws.
kokodin
there is at least 2 types of x or + head screws , one you did not mention , and that might be part of the problem Philips and improved Pozi Drive screws with extra x in the middle are not the same type of screws. philips drivers have shallower , rounder bits than pozi drivers, and despite fitting them in most cases lesser contact surface makes the ph driver break the edges of pz screw internaly and pops out On the other hand pozi drivers are too long for their size compared to ph equivalent and don't fit into philips head screws. i was amazed and still am that most people don't know that ph screws and pz screws need different drivers, even some trained technicians. i have both sets and using corect ones with corect screws makes a hell of a difference.
DragonsREpic
What about immortal flying reptiles?
Aepek
When I do drywall/Sheetrock, I only use Robertson/square head screws.... Switched from Phillips long ago & boy has it made my life easier & lot faster.
Roan
I miss your vids
Matthias Wandel
what you call "flat head screw" is actually called a "countersink screw"
Christoffer Bergström
I've been looking forward to this
Mart Dorgelo
Hi Steve! Glad you’re back!! Greetings from The Netherlands!
th34lch3m1st
I really like this series of videos (which glue, wood finishing, screws). They are really handy for a novice like me. Thanks man for sharing this tips.
Matthew Young
For those wondering a screw has a certain type of thread that has a much larger pitch than a bolt. A bolt has a machine thread which can come is different variation. A machine screw is a bolt but with threads all the way up the shank. A bolt will have a half threaded half shank.
Lucifer
When in doubt, is it better to screw, nail or bolt? 😏😏
Typical Asian
I’m scared of table saws
jack r
Where are the project vids?
Metatronic Mods
I bought some equipment last year that uses slotted screws with a non standard thread to secure a filter cover which regularly has to be removed. Likely some sick joke by a disgruntled requisition officer.
Jack P
Most of the Philips head screwdriver I get also have a square drive
Lycan Delavesta
Just to say, I like you(no homo way)... :)
The Only Alan
I've got to say, going to a hardware store doesn't generally mean that you're going to get better service. At Home Depot they literally never know what I'm looking for but even at Ace Hardware they often don't know what metric screws are. Heck, I've even had trouble getting Hardware at Fastenal
Dynioglowy1986
dont know why i watching this ....
Rainer Lilje-Halbritter
If you use a depth-stop you have to take a Philips-head, it will not work with torx. In this case it is important, that the driver comes out! That ist the reason, why drywall-screws habe a Philips-head.
WanJae42
I understand the focus here is on woodworking ... however, if you have a Japanese vehicle or Japanese electronics equipment (etc), and you see what looks like a Philips screw, it's very likely a "JIS" standard screw slot. The difference is subtle. You can find the drivers on Amazon cheap. A Philips screwdriver on a JIS screw will not engage very deeply and will strip the head if you apply even moderate torque. A proper JIS screwdriver allows you to put way more torque on the fastener. If you have a Japanese vehicle, even a cheap set of JIS drivers will save you much hassle.
Nock
i cant stand Robertson screws every time im fighting the drill bit to get it out of the screw.
Deep Outdoors
my house is from the twentys and theres flathead screws everywhere!! always annoys me lol
Henricks House
It's been a while Steve!! Being the amateur I am I really appreciate these basic woodworking videos! I feel like I have the vision of how to build stuff and what to build but I mess up things like when it's appropriate to use screws, bolts, nails, or wood glue and then what type to use!!
Petar Paskov
Can't believe I'm in the first 10 viewers :-)
Andy P
Fat Steve would have had a Microjig intro... just sayin'
Pelopidas Evangelopoulos
Make a joinery and strength best methods for woodworking basics.
Jack Mcslay
I don't have this problem because in my native language we don't have separate words for "screw" and "bolt"
Haim Bilia
I wish Steve Ramsey was my dad...
vincon ark
they are vary stronge
basher50
You said screw and bottom, demonetised!
ap snorroveli
I personally hate torx drivers almost as much as the flathead screws and think pz pozzy are the best.
THE CREATOR
you looking younger steve .
r stewardson
Is that the inside of Pini Hardware? I remember when they were located on Grant Ave east of 101. When 101 ran thru Novato back in the fifties.
Fran Maric
Can you please just make some videos about projects and not random things?
John Meise
6:42 I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS!! CAN WE PLEASE just MURDER slotted screws already?!
Cory Patterson
Yes phillip head screws where invented for the automotive industry to keep workers from over tightening and breaking the heads of screws by slipping out when the screw was tight enough. And they're named after the inventor.
tomsterism
Could you explain the specific reason that partially threaded shank wood screws are so made? I was told once that the plain section of the shank near the head is such so that the screw will pull two or more pieces of wood together more firmly than a fully threaded shank screw. Would love to know the real deal!
Leo Hultén
Oh, interesting! In Sweden I've mostly seen star drive. Initially frustrating when I didn't have the right driver and didn't know anything about what screws are good! Thank you for a useful video.
J.M. Castilla
OK, gracias por sus videos, thanks for your videos Subscriber: [email protected]
Thnielsen85
i really like your basic guides for various woodworking topics. they help me alot :) im new to the hobby of woodworking and have just started collecting the tools i need to get started. Do you have a video of what basic tools you reccomend? or could you make one? Anyways, thanks for a great video, and i hope you keep making them :)
the13th
Amazing Steve, you truly impress. And I mean its videos like this that prove how talented you are and I mean its easy to type this of stuff but. You made a video about screws... SCREWS And its AWESOME!
Hey I'm a Maker
Go Canada! FYI Robertson screws are a lot less than Torx.
Joe Nadeau
Steve, years ago all I heard about was biscuit joiners but now I dont hear a peep, what happened, did the joints fall apart? Good videos, glad I found you. Thanks, Joe
manju karkal
3:45 screw it..!! People will always argue, anyways. 🤣🤣
Ranjit bau
Good information quite wel
mr. Hoole
Dont buy flat head screws
animationcreations42
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Anton Wahyudi
thank you for the informative video. Very useful to beginner like me. However I have a question, how do you know if your screwdriver's head has the matching size with the driver's size of the screw? (Assuming the screws you bought did not come with the needed matching driver bits). Man I hope I deliver my question correctly.
Sundown798
Any box of screws spray them down with a silicone lubricant. Even the drywall screws will go in like butter. I saturate most with wd40 makes s difference when working with 3 inch all day on the job. Prefer the square heads but seem to find them at ace hardware stores. Big box store construction screws the T25 work decent but more money. But hate to waste those on temp applications that will just go to waste.
vito balliana
Steve I live in Australia and most of our screws are Phillips Head I have just had a meeting at home with the SPAX rep. He has left me some different SPAX screws to try, they are unbelievable. On the weekend i started making a dog feed center using phillips head screws, talk about frustration, with the head stripping or just loosing traction. I have just used the SPAX screws for the first time, oh my god they are great. So from now on im buying these by the box, wouldnt waste my time on any other screw from now on
justandy333
From the UK I can say I've never come across a square drive. On this side of the pond its predominantly pozi drive or phillips drive. Slotted are rare and I agree are a complete pain in the backside. Torx, again I agree are brilliant but you don't see much of them. I must disagree with steve's dislike of phillips head screws, Pozi drives are garbage but I think phillips heads are great, they slip alot less than pozi drives. But I must agree torx are bloody brilliant.
Tom Swinburn
Re: sheet metal screws. Fifty years ago, when I got into sheet metal work sheet metal screws were pan head and slotted. For MANY, MANY years now sheet metal screws almost always have a hex head. They are driven with a nut setter. And there are two basic types. Self tapping with the extreme point, and they're called zip-ins". And the other is the self drilling, with a bit like tip. Zip ins for thin sheet metal, self drilling for thicker material. They are excellent for their intended uses, but I can't think where I'd use either in wood work.
Deadmaus 2
If your phillips bit is jumping out of the screw, you may find a new bit will help greatly...
breeze787
Very good overall discussion on screws. And now here I come. Although the star and the square head screws are grippier I really prefer the phillips head screws for just 1 reason. All of my projects use phillips head screws. So when I come across a star or a square I have to 1st of all figure out which one it is and second I have to find a bit to match. I build and assemble a lot of different wood joineries and I often after that projects useful life I break it back down by removing the screws and recycling them into other projects. When I'm breaking down a project that for whatever set of reasons I'm using square or star I have to go through this convoluted problem solving task to figure out which screw head I used. With electronics there are star or torx machine screws that go from 0 all the way to like 40. Here it is a real pain to figure out which torx head screw size you need to use. So as a personal preference and the need to be as stress free as possible I like using only one type of screw fastening head and that will be Phillips for all the good and the bad that it can present itself.
CMG30
You missed one of the key benefits of the Robertson head! The square hole and the bit are actually tapered so that screws can be press-fit together granting you one-handed operation of the drill, even pointing straight down! This is extremely handy on construction projects where you may be up a ladder or reaching around a corner. If your screws are not staying attached when the drill is pointed down, then your bit is worn out!
Digant Shah
Thanks for your time and efforts. Watched till the end. Really informative.
jason huang
what's the name of the screw store that you showed on the video
Edgar Araujo
Hey dude....thanks for the screw up job on screws... 😁😉👍🏁 Very very helpful insight, Did learn alot on how to screw up a job😁👍😉🏁 I also use#8 but since i didn't find any #8 i used #7 and they did hold up to the workpiece. Thanks again may God Christ Bless you.
bajstolle89
LOST ALL credibility when i saw ryobi LOL!
Jorge A. Garza V
hate flatheads hate flatheads hate flatheads hate flatheads hate flatheads