Grand Theft Auto IV - True or Nostalgia?


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NakeyJakey
UPDATE: Months after uploading this video, I've realized I still play GTA IV more than V, and it is still my second favorite in the series next to Vice City. I was too busy trying to do a critical retrospective review that I forgot to actually talk about the things in it that I love so dearly. Yes the driving is ice blocks, yes it has its flaws, but I still prefer the world created in this game to to V's. This shit is True. Sustained, overruled.
Morgan Freeman
Jumping out of a moving car once in gta IV was more satisfying than the whole V's story
Pounch Controller
I loved GTA IV, man the first time I played this game I was so amazed, I was so excited to play it again every time I got back from school, there was no fancy shit, like fancy characters or fancy cars or fancy mission like in GTA V GTA V is a cool game but it doesn't have the soul and the love from GTA IV Hope Red Dead Redemption 2 will have the same soul
SyaninSs
GTA IV, deserved That tho
Casman
Have you ever tried to take a 90 degree turn in a large SUV while going like 50 MPH? It's going to understeer and body roll like fucking crazy. Just like in the game. The game IS realistic. but realistic isnt fun to most people. Try driving around in GTIV like a normal person, going the speed limit and following traffic laws. the cars behave perfectly normal like you'd expect a real car to. But that's not good enough for people. People expect to be able to take a 90 degree turn at 100mph without the slightest bit of suspension travel, and so much grip you'd think the wheels were literally stuck to the ground. Not to mention the way the cars feel like they're made out of some futuristic material that feels like it weighs as much as paper, but can take massive impacts like 3 inch thick steel. (Im talking about GTAV here)
Gilles
I loved the vehicle handling so much. GTA V is way too arcady.
kanival42
GTA 4's multiplayer was way better compared to 5's online. 4 literally revolved around having fun, remember meeting up at the airport with other players to have races on the strip, massive shootouts at the airport, people racing to grab the helicopters there and camping them, getting chased by a dude in an annihilator, everyone driving to the 3rd island to get the sultan rs, people trying to show off the sultan rs, shooting cops with friends, everyone in the server meeting up at the swingset of death to see who gets launched the farthest, etc... good times... 5's online is very hard to have fun, you can't drive anywhere without some asshole in a tank or hydra blowing you up. tank and hydra campers are everywhere in online. not to mention that you need money to buy shit in order to have fun as well, 5's online revolves around money.
Zeus Osenkai
I quite like the driving physics in GTA 4
Kevin Peeters
brake before a corner , might even help you in real life ;) bring those driving physics back !!!
Alfred
I respectfully disagree with you on your point you made about the driving, I was very disappointed when i found gta 5just let you roll your flipped car back around, in 4 if you were being chased in online and that happened it would mean you had to leave your car and come face to face with your enemy leading to an epic grand finale face off. It would also add the element of risk to the chase.. do I take this shortcut that could lead to a flipped car or take the longer but safer route.
ConorOG
In my opinion, its true. Best bowling in video game history.
MattCarter1999
GTA IV has far more better story than Far Cry 3.
Gahan Raj
The driving physics was one of the best aspects of GTA IV. Not perfect but still better than GTA V if you ask me.
hr106zeta
No nostalgia. 100% awesomeness.
Andy [Xvixx]
I like the driving it actually feels like the cars have weight to them, and there is suspension instead of steel bars unlike gta 5
Vercassivellaunos
I liked the steering in gta 4, i think its more realistic and overall better than in gta 5
Jimeth
Totally disagree with you on the driving, GTA's driving engine is what made the game great in my opinion. If you can't control the motorbikes you're just a noob and you're probably holding the accelerator on full blast and trying to hit corners at 300 miles an hour.
Jezus Leeft
GTA IV's vehicle handling is 100x better than V's.
Rob
Let’s be honest.... the only people who dislike GTA 4 are the kids who’s first GTA game was 5.
Wulfzz
I still love the driving in GTA 4, not because of realism, but because it's simply fun as hell
SaiyanZ's Wife
Rockstar neglected the single payer experience too much with V.
Dino Spumoni
If you think the driving in _Grand Theft Auto IV_ is bad then it's just user error. There's still an active race community in the game for a reason. The driving is fantastic, if difficult.
Marcuz Pedersen
GTA IV has all the good things. Good music, a good story, the driving was really fun, the physics, in general, was really fun. I once played GTA IV a whole summer holiday, because I was in love in this game. I still listen to the music sometimes. Is clearly a better game then V. I wish Rockstar made a 2018 version of it, like LA.Noire....
Sheev for Senate
A couple of things I do miss from GTA IV are: 1. The cheats tab in the phone instead of having to type them over and over. 2. Interiors like Cluckin Bell and the Hospital, the best stand off zones against the police. V seriously lacks them.
Logan Ainsworth
gta 4 is 10x better than gta 5
V 4 Vellian
Every GTA game from my childhood are the best
Vincenzo
The story was amazing
CT Spoder
I have the say it's still a good game I've went back numerous times and enjoyed it
Matej Sommer
I feel like Niko is the most intelligent main character from the GTA series.
Ateru Arts
GTA iv, the game of my live. Really! 99 out if 100
Billy Savage
I understand why people didn't like the driving but the vehicles turn fine when slowed down enough. Then again it's fine to prefer the more arcady driving but i found slowying down enough, hitting the apex of a corner and accelerating out of it just skimming the opposite curb a treat.
Wonka DeWitt Bukater
Driving physics from GTAIV are way very realistic, try to do what is in GTAIV in the street, the car will react way alike, with all that body roll to only stock cars can, also cars without ABS feel very realistic. i meant is very old engine but much better than some out there. but opinions are so wide :)
Jorgi Zoran
2002: Vice City is bad, III is better. 2004: San Andreas is bad, Vice City is better. 2008: IV is bad, San Andreas is better. And here we are today. 2013-present: V is bad, IV is better. 20XX: VI is bad, V is better.
Helix
Honestly i still prefer gta 5 over 4 and man that is a heated argument but hear me out. I went into gta 4 cold only knowing how everybody flocked over it like it was a god tier game. Keep in mind this was me coming from playing the story of gta 5 3 times because of how interesting it was to me at the time. When i got into gta 4 however... things were not really the same. i was met with piss poor and just downright pathetic optimization on the pc getting 30 fps if i was lucky with a 1080 ti and an i7 5930k! Even more issues occured when i realized that my resolution was chopped in half and stretched because of my 21:9 monitor. So great im stuck playing this game at 30-40 fps with constant drops and a horrid resolution but i stuck through to play this game that people were so amazed by. First off, driving. holy shit its impossible to drive with a keyboard in this god damn game. even when plugging in a controller its a pain in the rear because of how horrid the cars are. It is such a genuine chore that i found the BOATS in gta 5 to be more maneuverable than 4. and its not like i dont appreciate realistic driving, no my favorite game is assetto corsa and i have actually driven cars before. this crap is slidey tedious garbage at times. The gunplay is similarly clunky and annoying as mentioned in the video. niko takes forever to get into cover and for the love of god why do you need to take 5 fuckin years to pull out a pistol! The physics are still fun as hell to play around with though i will admit but the problem was, i literally dont want to experiment with this game further because of how BROKEN it is. Aside from that though, my main gripe was how linear and boring the missions were. it was either, go to a deal and kill people when it always goes wrong, pilot this shitty vehicle to not die, go to this place and shoot these people, or even more boring here fucko just take this car and drive me somewhere where you can shoot people for a second then leave. What the fuck is that? Meanwhile in gta 5 you were highjacking planes and crashing them into the alamo sea, crashing trains into eachother and escaping down a river, doing heists with interesting alternate routes, doing amazing heists with different options and crew members, and most of all playing along with the branching storyline and weaving your own path until the end. I know i will likely go back to gta 5 and realize it was not what i hyped it up to be but people need to stop romanticizing both games and realize that parts are better in either of them. Hopefully in the future we will get a gta 6 with all of these positives put together. Im putting my hope into rockstar, now will you too let go of the past and look onto the future?
NesquezzzGOD
5:14 is just plain stupid. That what u said there can be applied for gta 5... and 3, and San Andreas. If you don't like the realism of the missions go and play Saints Row. Why? Because you don't need (between the missions) to go all guns blazing, Niko doesn't like to kill, only when he needs to... so in your free time you can just go from mission to mission and not cause havoc in the city. CJ is also that type of a character. Sooo, RS is giving to you a movie type game and the freedom to do whatever you want and if you feel like the main story and free time in game doesn't match the same atmosphere that's completely your fault, or fault of your gameplay style. For the driving part i agree, for combat part i can't tell because i'm a pc gamer and the combat was fine. And if you say that it doesn't deserve a 10, pls look the games before GTA IV, and after and you will see that it completely revolutionized the game industry. GTA 5 is just a bigger, mora eye appealing version of GTA IV
Bobsponge
I loved the gta iv driving
Subi_fan
GTA 4's driving was just perfect, some people really perfected it and did hardcore skilled online races where taking turns like in racing games actually mattered.
Greg Cunningham
GTA IV's driving physics are near perfect for an open world game. If you think different, you probably molest children.
Alonzo Harris
The storyline of GTA 4 is the best GTA Story no questions asked. The confusion of Niko at the start of him saying how he is looking for someone. And as the story progresses he tells more about his dark fucked up past. And he opens up how depressed he is and it wouldn't matter to him if he would die. You feel for the character even if he is just nothing more then a character. You see Niko develop as he he meets Michele and Kate or speaks to Roman and his mother in emails. But the part where you find Darko is maybe one of the most mindbreaking moments. Will you kill him to avenge your friends but you will also be a hypocrite because you are also a killer like he is. Or will you let Darko go realizing nothing will bring your friends back even if you get revenge. It feels like the build up to finding Darko got so high just for most people to let him go felt so uncomon. Then if Niko couldn't feel worse about searching for him for so long just to feel empty (even if he feels a bit better when you spare him) the Revenge and Deal ending happens where Niko simply doesn't win. It differs from most GTA's because in all other games. Tommy becomes kingpin, Claude gets revenge, CJ becomes king of LS, Michaele Franklin and Trevor can kill all the bad guys. But Niko just can't win. Niko will never win because he has just lost so much.
Higor Silva
Come on, guys. GTA IV is fkn' amazing. It's not perfect and didn't age well, but it's awesome!
Kevin Maddick
The driving is fine. It's GTA V's driving which is a joke. It's like driving plastic toy cars.
DemonGrenade274
The cover system from 5 is better than 4 but the shooting in general was superior in 4. Controls were far more responsive and snappy when not in cover. And the NPC's reactions to getting shot were far more dynamic than they were in gta 5.
Leilah Nicki
Am I the only guy who plays strictly for story and missions. Always thought before GTAV the sandbox was pretty boring... Nothing to do but go on rampages which without an interesting objective or setup just feels empty. But in GTA V they're actually pretty dope sandbox rampages, shame the missions are pretty hit and miss and it needed way more heists, 5-6 options per heist would also be better. With a different mission name and rating for each main choice, maybe with a difficulty rating from 1-5 stars to go along with the expanded choices, and payout changes for less effective methods of stealing, or slower payout.
Jure Baban
So nobody pointed out that if you halve the turning radius you actually get more sensitive steering as opposed to what he was trying to say?
André Loureiro
To me nothing will ever beat San Andreas. It's the power of nostalgia i guess. When GTA4 came out i thought it was a good game, but shit when compared to SA. But i came to enjoy more as the years went by. I still think that SA was/is the better game, but GTA4 is cool too.
idontevenknow136
ocarina of time is very overrated
Bearded Sifu
i'd take gta4 over gta5 anyday.
AMV12S
Great is the GTA V story, right? just robbery, steal and more robbery, excellent story.
Vaccinize
Am I the only one that noticed shadow of the colossus music in the background? XD
taavidude
Very much disagree. What you said about combat was mainly talking about when playing with a controller. For me playing a 3D game with a controller is a pain. I tried to play Dark Souls with a controller the camera was so hard to move and I need to use like almost all of my fingers to do stuff. While with keyboard and mouse everything is so much easier. For me controllers are more meant for 2D games. You forgot other important things. First off GTA 4 by far has had the most realistic police. In other GTA games including GTA 5 if you kill someone in the middle of the fuckin' desert, you get wanted level. In GTA 4 if noone sees you kill someone, then you wont get wanted. Physics. GTA 4 by far has the most realistic physics, even more realistic than GTA 5's. The physics GTA 4 introduced made the game also 10 times more fun. In GTA San Andreas driving into people is so unsatisfying, because they just stand on one place and die instead of getting flung like in GTA 4. The main character. While in basically every other GTA game you have some generic criminal, in GTA 4 we had some fresh air with having a badass war veteran. Niko is an amazing character and definitely the best GTA protagonist so far. The only two problems GTA 4 has is motorcycle driving being complete shit and the game running like dogshit due to it's horrible port.
Mysia
Absolutely TRUE, I just completed the game for the 1st time, and I played GTA 5 before - great game 10/10
DrunkenPopTart
I still MUCH prefer the driving in GTA4 to GTA5 though. I much rather feel like Im driving on ice than Im driving bumper cars set on a rail. Collisions are such shit in 5
SgtRyoseirui
Personally, I always found everything about GTA IV to be clunky. The driving, the movement, the guns felt powerless, and the presentation always seemed bland and washed out. As for the story, I don't have anything to say about it, since I never really paid attention to it.
Ben Link
I could say the same for Ocarina of Time, because Majora's Mask is just way better.
A Buzzed Whaler
Shuckle my doing.
Voice Muted
You know what the best part of GTA IV is? Roman’s shirt
I HAVE MUFFINS!
compared to GTA V, the shooting physics was way better. Like when you shot someone, it felt like you sent ballistics their way and you hurt them bad. now it's them sporting blood and falling on their side and dying after 3 seconds
Chris Carter
V was better. IV is still great. That's all you needed to say.
Icebear _Chill
If I want to say I like GTA 4 with driving physics better then let me do it don't argue that gtav's physics better because I don't care, I like the driving physics better and that's the way it's going to stay for me, I also like the shooting physics better and the crash physics better I like the bigger explosions and I liked all the weapon models with their guns sounds and I love the Ragdoll effect on all the people when you shoot them or hit them with a car and when they stagger backwards it's not too unrealistic or realistic for me but I loved it anyhow this is my opinion you can totally like any other aspect of any other game better than GTA 4 if and I wouldn't care, if you find one that's good enough I may even agree.....
Spencer Cox
IV is the only GTA that I've only finished once. I've had no desire to go back and play it. It wasn't good to begin with, and it's not good now.
Tupacstole Mybike
Am I the only one that loved the driving mechanics in IV compared to V. Drifted my way thru corners like a boss.
whatevs
I loved the driving
The Pokéman
Whatever it is....... Dat San Andreas theme song tho..
Grim1952
I didn't even like GTAIV, didn't even finish it
Radion
what's the tune at 3:33?
John DiMaggio
"Niko is an amazing idea for a character" NO shit, he is the best written character in GTA history
screen name
It's because GTA 4 is for true PROS
Fortune Finder
Doesn't matter whether or not you love it now. Yeah it may be shit to play now but back in the day it was groundbreaking in the way it did things.
Timmy The Third
Even rockstar thought the cars handled like boats (aka shit). You can find this on a 2012 rockpapershotgun article. They admitted they went too far with the realism and ended up with something that wasn't realistic due to this. I think they call this 'hyper-realism' where you go too far trying to make something realistic, you end up making it like GTA IV's driving. Where everything handles like a boat retrofitted for the road with no power steering and no suspension (or shot).
Ace of Alien
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Zyndall Media
Prefer GTA IV than GTA V.
ravensfootball52
The car damage physics were awesome and still something I wish they had in gta v
Nate Poch
The driving in IV is so great. Actually feels like you’re driving a car. And, once you learn the controls well and can successfully pull of drifting corners and driving high speeds without crashing, it’s incredibly satisfying - unlike GTA V.
System Of A Down Syndrome
4 deserved more credit then it got. story and everything was excellent. u just suck at driving lol
FullMetalKaliber X
I went back to GTA 4 and I could really appreciate the direction Rockstar went in 5. Most of the movements in this game were so slow that it takes forever to get to the next place. It doesn't help that the city was massive. Its almost as if they expected you to wait at every stoplight
OldPervertedHerbert
The driving mechanics are straight booty in GTA IV. But the way the cars flip, take damage, and fly in the air after collisions are still superior to GTA V in my opinion.
Mees
Jakey! Make more True or Nostalgia. I really enjoyed this concept.
BUTT HURTZ
YO GTA4 WAS GOOD AND IMMA LET YOU FINISH BUT SAN ANDREAS WAS THE BEST GTA GAME OF ALL TIME
Nigel Morgan
I think Niko is a a big case of wasted potential. He starts off the game as this interesting character trying to run away from his past while at the same time trying to confront a man who betrayed him long ago. The arguments he has with Roman and the conflict they go through is engaging and interesting for me, the first couple hours of the game made me very interested. But that all goes away after the mission Roman's Sorrow. All the things I loved about Niko's character are all gone, and replaced with this boring person who only talks about how he will do things for a price. He never even says why he "needs money", he just says it over and over and I just got so sick of it. Occasionally he'll mention how he's searching for the man who betrayed him, but he never does anything to actively try and find him apart from simply telling people he's trying to find him. There are a few likable characters like Packie and Little Jacob to provide some entertainment, but most of the time Niko's working for characters that have little personality, or are just assholes. It made me care so little about the story, it felt like there barely was any story. All I felt was like this errand boy running around doing ultimately meaningless tasks for people I don't know. The story picked up a bit towards the end, but that wasn't enough to make me feel like the story was positive overall. Personally, I'll never understand why everyone loves this game so much.
Shubham Panchal
I was actually installing gya 4 while watching this video 😂😂
xXxMartin96xXx
The story isn't prefect but i would say its true-nalgia. Driving was so underrated tho. Once you got the hand of its semi-realistic physics you can do everything.
masooome soleimani
I see that little Frank Ocean / Tyler, the Creator font for the word "nostalgia" in the mark 1:24 lil' man! I see u there!
Chris Carter
Idk. I like GTA V a little more than IV I know that's not the popular opinion, but hey I'll say it. The world is better to me. And the characters are more relatable. That being said IV is still one of the best games ever made.
1997lordofdoom
No nostalgia, GTA IV is a masterpiece.
Chantocati
H O T B O Y
BigBad Bryant
Getting GTA IV on launch day when I was in high school was one of the top highlights of my childhood. It didn't match the greatness of San Andreas for me but the story and characters were a hell of a lot more interesting than GTA V in my opinion.
NLrenzo
Just look up the song flashing lights the nostalgia kicks in instantly
Po Tato
how you gonna say driving is nostaliga have you tried steering a goddamn car at high speeds? its supposed to be as you call "soapy" and if you actually learn it you can drive without any issues, just saying m8 git gud :))
CG Media - The Classic Games Hub
I LOVE GRAND THEFT AUTO IV. It is one of the best GRAND THEFT AUTOs. It's stood the test of time more than any other GRAND THEFT AUTO. It isn't a perfect 10 because it was missing a lot, but I adored the feel of it.
Keith Williams2
My biggest problem with gta4 was driving
Journey awaits
GTA 5 failed to build upon the successful elements and now it's a online cashgrab
Hitchslap
Definetly true a masterpiece
jacob preßen
San Andreas is my fav
EmoTi.on.s
2.6k dunkeys
Saverdien
There is no swingset in GTA V... GTA IV wins
Bas Bastiaansen
the story and characters of gta iv are ten times better than gta v's. I honeslty never gave a damn about any gta 5 character, at all. exept for trevor.
Dharmavid Francis
In my humble and correct opinion GTA IV was a masterpiece.
MrBonethrower
I hated GTA4 back in 2008, and I still hate it today.
The YouTube Phantom Official
*drifts garbage truck* The handbrake in GTA IV was basically a drift button, and in GTA V, drifting was actually difficult.
theguyinthere
every video you sound like a drunk college student