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History Buffs is back! To thank you all for your patience while I've been away on holiday, I'm starting off with Master and Commander! SUPPORT HISTORY BUFFS ON PATREON /> ● Like us on Facebook: /> ● Follow us on Twitter: /> ________________________________________­­_________________________________ - Check out These Videos - Zulu Review - Gladiator Review - />We Were Soldiers - />Kingdom of Heaven – />The Last Samurai – />Why Game of Thrones reads like a History Book and not a Fantasy Epic - />The Patriot - />The Ghost and the Darkness - />300 - />1492 Conquest of Paradise - />Amadeus - />Braveheart - />Vikings Historical Accuracy and Season 4 Predictions - />Waterloo - />Alexander - />Lawrence of Arabia - />Goodfellas - />Agora - />Saving Private Ryan - /> Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World is a 2003 American epic historical drama film written, produced and directed by Peter Weir. The film stars Russell Crowe as Captain Jack Aubrey and Paul Bettany as Dr. Stephen Maturin. The film, which cost $150 million to make, was a co-production of 20th Century Fox, Miramax Films, Universal Pictures, and Samuel Goldwyn Films, and released on November 14, 2003 to critical acclaim. The film's plot and characters are adapted from three novels in author Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey–Maturin series, which includes 20 completed novels of Jack Aubrey's naval career. At the 76th Academy Awards, the film was nominated for 10 Oscars, including Best Picture. It won in two categories, Best Cinematography and Best Sound Editing and lost in all other categories to The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.



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Chrisjan Wust
How we have 9 spiderman movies, yet no Master and Commander sequel, is beyond me.
Paul Thompson
Humbly speaking, this movie goes down in cinema history as one of the most under-rated and ubder-appreciated movies of all time. Indeed, the movie bordered on masterpiece. It also has an outstanding soundtrack, similar to Amadeus and The Mission. Sometimes I feel embarrassed that the culture in the States prefer DC-type super heros over quality history films as this. Your analysis and praise for it is worthy and well deserved.
ethan hatcher
let's here it for Old Ironsides everybody!
Jack the Gestapo
this movie is terribly underrated.
Cody Ackermann
Acheron's being a privateer, rather than an actual French navy ship, makes her being built in Boston slightly more believable. Not much maybe, but slightly.
Macedonian_Pride 83
jesus christ the sea wolf dude captured 53 ships ,. that is insane
MelanicDisaster
I think I speak for most of America when I say that we can easily watch a film where the Americans are not the protagonists (especially in regards to history). However, considering that no ship and captain actually took down the U.S.S. Constitution, using a fictional ship is completely fine imo. I do wish that we got a more nuanced film about Britain during this period though. I would love a film about the Revolutionary War that portayed the legitimate reasons that someone would remain loyal to Britain and give us a nuanced view of both sides of the conflict rather than just "good vs those evil lobsters". American audiences at large would not reject it the way I see it, however, Hollywood just won't take that chance.
Johnny Thunder
While I agree with Nick's comments on changing the enemies from being American to French I actually do like that change: because one of the things at stake in the movie is maintaining British naval superiority that prevents France from invading England. Had the surprise lost to American enemies that would have been bad for them, but it would not have endangered England. Having the enemies be Napoleonic France adds a layer of suspense.
Hexa Dex
England is my boat
THOTH
I can highly recommend the Aubrey-Maturin book series by Patrick O'Brien, some of the best, most historically accurate naval fiction around, and very entertaining as well.
George Hamilton
Well, the difference is that the Americans would have lost in "Master and Commander" whereas they did win in "Iwo Jima."
FallaciousScotsman
Thomas Cochrane sounds like the most awesome sailor who ever lived. The brass balls on a man like that.
Kalo Arepo
Love the music of Bach and Boccherini as used in this film.
marcelo ignacio
fun fact: after the expultion of the british navy Lord Cochrane (crockan) became admiral of the chilean navy, fight against spain, liberate chile And become the father of the chilean navy and the first of the free americas, even the paint at 9:58 Is based on the Cochrane operation of the assault of the fort of niebla in the city of Valdivia, it was a complex of fortifications on the top of risk and it was one of the most secure and protected forts in the spanish empire untill Cochrane assault it and win, every 21 of may a delegation of the chilean army go to the webmister abady were Lord cochrane Is , to pay respect in a ceremony
alan brooke
Just 'HMS Surprise' or ''The Surprise', not 'The His Majesty's Ship Surprise".
Seth McKinney
Great video, and a great movie. in answer to your question, as to why the French warship was built in Boston, there was some precedent to the idea. In 1780, the first Ship of the Line that the US ever built, USS America was given to France. so it's not outside the realm of possibility that they'd build France a frigate as well.
PalleRasmussen
Fake news! We all know The Constitution is becalmed for all these long years on her airy perch atop the Weatherby Savings & Loan in the Greater Boston area ;-)
Brendan Culph
Thumbs up if you want a review of Schindler's list
Garland FX
Blackhawk Down please :)
WO J
History Buffs: another Peter Wier film Gallipoli (1981)
Alexander Lee
Americans can relate to America being portrayed negatively its just most Americans probably believe that they were in the right during the war of 1812 and maybe they were. 1812 is a big deal in the US even though it wasn't a victory (even though Britain burnt the white house down) but in the UK its more of a sideshow to the Napoleonic wars (which in the scheme of things it really was, nothing really changed). I imagine some Americans probably would have lost their shit if a film was made portraying the British as positively in 1812. He probably would've had to completely change the film if he wanted to show America as the antagonists, Jack Aubrey would've had to have met the opposing admiral for friendly banter or there would've had to have been a scene where he would've had to declare his love of all things American. Letters from iwo Jima on the other hand doesn't necessarily portray Japan in a positive light it doesn't say Japan was in the right and the main character is pretty pro-American its why its well received.
Abdialibaba Ali
Thomas was definitely Badass level 9000
kar muts
I know this is late but I review on Das Boot would be nice? It's probably the best U-Boat film ever. Like ever.
ntkn
"america is a little bit smarter than that" we allowed hillary and trump to be strong candidates for election, and we ended up electing trump. ill leave it at that.
Robert Staples
I love how us Americans can stomach the sight of other nation's soldiers and what not getting slaughtered in warfare, but we instantly get offended when the tables are turned on us. That's why I love movies like Letters of Iwo Jima just for the fact that they do something we're not willing to do often enough, which is look at ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE.
Choppington Otter
Those pesky British keep getting in the way of European dictators. Considering the island is only about 500 miles long so tiny in comparison to France etc. it must REALLY annoy the continentals 😁
Peter Evans
I'm a huge fan of the O'Brien books, they're beautiful observations of human nature and friendship, a transporting evocation of a time-period and just all round a delight to read and live in. And yep, the battles are pretty great too when they come about. I love the movie also, and in the end I can't complain about the altering of the plot of Far Side of the World. The film gets the spirit of the books right, and I consider it a theme or variation on the books - a summary - much as Aubrey and Maturin would delight in passing an evening in the cabin working their own themes and variations on composer's chamber pieces with their violin and cello. If you haven't read the books, read them. The first isn't as polished as the ones following, and is a little more weighted in nautical terms, but the series almost immediately blossoms into something wonderful, and they're books you'll find you can return to again and again. (Also, the 18th century slang is great. "Grass-combing buggers!")
MisterTutor2010
My favorite line from the movie is "To wives and sweethearts. May the never meet.".
GameScape
Ok I am pretty sure Russell Crowe teased on his twitter a sequel.
jaselrod
It seems to me that the change of the enemy ship from American to French also reflected the anti-French sentiment promoted by the Bush administration after the 9/11 disaster...remember "Freedom Fries", for example? It did come out in 2003, and I seem to remember it being delayed a bit in its release.
Philip Salama
So, uh, you're doing Sharpe right?
OcarinaSapph1r3 -24
Damn! Someone needs to make a movie about Cochrane- he sounds like a boss!
Early Crowd
So.. Letters from Iwo Jima next?
Kangaroo
review the movie fury
slayerpianoman
Great video!! Just a comment on the chasing of the Acheron around cape horn. it was common practice around this period to "do or die" as an English navy commander. Admiral John Byng is a famous example of a man who was assigned to relieve the British Garrison at Minorca when they were attacked by the French. His fleet was poorly manned and in bad shape because of the haste he had to execute. Upon engaging the French fleet, his fleet was banged up and he and his fellow officers decided they needed to retreat because they were useless against the much superior French force. His intention was to sail back to port, refit, re-arm, grab some reinforcements, and then go back at 'em. Unfortunately, the navy had a law that it was the duty of a navy commander to "do his upmost," which includes practically ANYTHING for victory. The penalty per law was death, so he was SHOT. Not just punished, he was KILLED for doing a logical retreat. Any navy man growing up during that period would be told by their superiors the importance of never letting anything stop them, even if the law changed to allow more leniency which it did later. So I think Jack did what a captain was expected to do at that time, which is whatever was necessary no matter the danger. He did his "upmost."
Jiskpirate
Just to reply to your criticism: Every captain loves a good storm. I read the novels the movie is based on (Master And Commander, Post-Captain, The Far Side of the World, etc) and it also describes how J. Aubrey is enjoying his brig the _HMS Sophie_ is tested in a storm and how much he loves her going up the hills and down in the valleys of the waves. Cape Horn was and remains to this day a dangerous point to sail, but this storm isn't anything compared to the huge hurricane of 1780 when 13 ships were lost, including the two decker _HMS Thunderer_ with a sixteen year old Nathaniel Cook onboard (James Cook' son). Also, changing the American ship to a French one is actually necessary, considering the many discussions and conversations of the might of both navies, under USS Constitution videos or HMS Victory videos. Really. There's a big mass that is full of nationalism and doesn't like their side defeated; it's basically seeing USS Constitution getting defeated, *the* old ironsides, *the oldest commissioned warship still afloat* ! Really, people would care. Also let's just say Patrick O Brian was a genius considering he put all of these naval achievements under one character (J Aubrey) and he did a lot of research considering these achievements. Aubrey even got himself a ship same as HMS Speedy, for the same reason! Isn't that remarkable? Anyways, lovely video, and you certainly got another subscriber. I like how I'm not the only one that knows a lot about the historical accuracy of movies and how important it is :)
Ian Washburn
Old Ironsides! I've been on it. So cool.
UnclePalpy
If you don't do All Quiet on the Western Front we riot.
jake jones
Im american and i wouldnt give two shots if our people were the enemy. God knows we have been in many wars.
TheAbfromNJ
Please do A Bridge Too Far
Strontstash
Damn cant stop watching these :0
Chick Sage
The HMS Guerriere was well known, in America, especially in Baltimore, as a ship that had boarded several American vessels and pressed hundreds, or more, American citizens, into the service of Her Majesties Royal Navy. In all, over 5,000 native born American citizens were forced to serve in the British navy. Britain didn't recognize the right of it's citizens to renounce their citizenship, and claimed this as their main justification, for pressing Americans into service. This, being one of the chief reasons for American declaring war, on Britain, and kicking off the War of 1812, it's worth noting. Thank you for making these videos.
Jack Murphy
You should review The Last of the Mohicans next. or even Troy! I bet you'd have a field day with that one!
Grely Moly Cremp
Can you do the TV series Hornblower, I found it pretty good.
Emerson Peterson
I just recently found your channel. Your videos are so interesting! I've really enjoyed checking up on the historical accuracy of some of the films I enjoy. One of my favorite movies is Legends of the Fall, and it depicts a special place in the world during a truly unique time (Midwest USA during WWI). I know from your Dances with Wolves review, you also enjoy assessing the historical accuracy of Native Americans, and this movie has that, too. Thanks for the time and effort you put into your videos!
Cozza84
Excellent analysis. Really enjoying this series
Dalle Smalhals
I really need: Das Boot(1981) even a try at the 5 hour+ miniseries??! Stalingrad(1992) And Der untergang(2004) or are they not Hollywood and/or english enough? Please get real UK now soon to be non EU ;-P
Ironhyde1
Im sry Nick, but I think you get American audience more credit then thy deserve when u talked about the film 'Letters from Iwo Jima' yes it from Japanese perspective vs the Americans, but the american enemy Kicked the shit out of the Japanese & beat them in the end, that's why US audience took it well, thy can not accept loosing, (unless maybe to aliens lol ). Unlike here in 'Master & commander' where its upclose in their faces( the faces of the defeated french) after Jack captures the Asheron.
Frederik
Fun fact: at no point in history did England posses the most modern ships. Theirs were always 'an older model' and new ones were often captured ships. Because their crews and officers were so much better, they sunk or captured the enemy ships, who would have to build a new (and modern) ship to replace it. The English just had to repair theirs.
Ze Melon Lord
Please do Hacksaw Ridge m8
Yamapopi
It's a little easy to hit on the french, bit of a tradition amongst anglo saxons, especially after 2003 and the french refusal to authorize the US intervention in Iraq. I hope Nolan will not forget to mention the french in the Dunkerque", cause forgetting them in a movie talking about the battle of Dunkerque would be a huge middle finger to historical accuracy.
Foksuh
It's truly one of the best historical movies I've seen and really great because it portrays the harsh reality of the ship life back in the 1800's. The movie gets just about everything right, from visuals to music to a number of details and one amazing cast. You might have Crowe and Bettany as the main characters but it wasn't just about them, the whole crew starred and brought the movie to life. Everyone from the officers to the powder-monkeys were characters. If there's one complaint I've had about this, it's the fact that they never got to make another one despite wanting to.
Alexander Jakubsen
Great review but its more like a game of cat and also cat.
Deadpool17207 1
Britain did not win the war of 1812 Nor did the Americans But the Native Americans lost
Burnt Bookfilms
I know Im a year late to say this but... No the Victory is not the oldest ship still in use. The Victory is a ship converted to be a museum and is only dropped into the water occasionally just so the British can claim it's still in use. The Constitution (Olde Ironsides) is literally still in use as a navy ship. We still use Ironsides as an active navy ship.
Mr Vinson
One of my favorite movie.
WW2GM
could you do one about "Das Boot"?
Chris Djernaes
Fantastic! Please do another Incredible Story on the USS Constitution and Thomas Cochrane :) Truth is ALWAYS stranger and more exciting than fiction. Sadly Hollyweird abhors Truth.
GentlemanBystander
A possible theory regarding the choice to alter the American ship to a French ship has to do with the peculiar relationship of Anglophone nations. It's hard to argue against the idea that we were children of England that eventually became siblings, but the element of hate is so far removed that nobody really grasps why we would ever be at war with England. It's peculiar to watch our nations at arms against each other without some mustache twirling villain behind it all. In a situation where you have two captains doing what they do, it does become a bit more complicated to decide the limits to which you can feel for Aubrey and his crew. They're clearly the protagonists, they are clearly the driving force of the movie, but at the end of the day for an anglophone audience, it's easier to not see us at each others' throats. Juxtapose this with a move like Letters From Iwo Jima or Casualties of War and you get a different dynamic. The visceral dislike for the Imperial Japanese and Vietnamese in the two movies is still real for some people. We killed oodles of one another, but once war ends there has to be some sort of catharsis, a need to humanize those that were once you enemies to reconcile the natural homicidal tendency in humans. In Letters from Iwo Jima, we were given a few sympathetic Japanese characters that we already KNEW were doomed by dint of the historical record of what occurred on the Bonin Islands. In short it comes down to a sort of instinctive need to convince yourself why you don't want to kill them anymore and a sort of need for closure by leaving the perception of the evil enemy behind. It is this sort of thing that motivates men to go back to the countries they fought in long after a war and find the unique camaraderie among their former enemies as the men who survived it. Between Britain and America, you'll never have that need for catharsis in the modern era because we've been close for well over 100 years now.
Jonah The Jedai
This is truly Terrific Work..probably your finest.
billiondollardan
This makes Master and Commander so much better
Podemos URSS
I like both Star Trek and Master and Commander.
condeguga
How can you call Napoleon "master of Europe" if he never conquered Portugal, one of the greatest Empires at the time?
American Prepper
Nothing like a little sodomy on the high seas to get your day going there lads
Heinz Guderian
Man i am still bummed they opted out of another movie. Master&Commander might very well be one of my favorite movies out there.
beeman2075
I've just discovered your channel, and found your take on the historical elements of Master and Commander fascinating. I still have a bucket wish that Russell Crowe and Paul Bettany had been able to reprise their roles in a sequel, given the number of Aubrey-Maturin books published by Patrick O'Brian. Master and Commander is (still) a brilliant film.
stonecoldku
Well as far as the American audiences not being upset by Letters of Iwo Jima and may be upset by Master and Commander if it was an American ship they were fighting I bring about this question. Who won? At the end of Master and Commander the British ship won. At the battle of Iwo Jima the Americans won. That could have been a factor in changing the movie to the French.
3333glen
When the Acheron fires out of the fog - 1st - the chance of even one shot hitting was astronomical; 2nd, no English Captain would tell the crew to get down. Instead, he would order them to their stations to set more sail, man the guns, or both. No Captain would want his men to start thinking they should hide from enemy fire. For example, I believe it was a capital offense to go below deck during battle unless you were a powder boy or other job that required it.
Ruben Abrudan
please bro make hacksaw ridge next
Onead lassa
Great vid! Could you PLEASE review The Messenger The Story Of Joan Of Arc
Ryan Yeager
Thr next movie you should do is Gangs of New York.
Christian Burrell
Of course, in the movie Letters from Iwo Jima, everyone knows the Americans ultimately will win and they also had a companion movie told from the American perspective. IMO - the Director was right, American audiences would not have liked keeping the book true. Just think if they tried it in Trump’s America. There would have been a riot.
Txtspeak
badass is one word.
RedTeamReview
bout time. missed you boo <3
Norwegian Blue
I agree that it is not giving American audiences enough credit for being able to handle a movie where they are the "bad guys", as long as it is somewhat historically accurate. It actually pissed me off when the film makers made the crew of "U-571" American, when it was a movie obviously based on the achievements of British sailors.
Cameron Adams
Hms victory in Portsmouth Harbor, yeahhhhh
rama1234ish
when it comes to weather or not Americans would back the movie if the enemies were an American ship, most Americans are really bum (and I'm an American) and blindly patriotic, so they wouldn't have backed the movie
Harry Ford
The Acheron in the film is anachronistic. In the novel "The Far side of the World" it is 1812 and Aubrey is chasing an *American* 44 gun frigate. This made perfect sense in the novel but it absolutely does not when dealing with a French letter of marque in 1805. That the writers kept this in is really annoying.
DarkLordLink
Saw this in theaters with my dad when it came out (I was a young kid at the time). Definitely the reason why I love historical films and 1800's nautical history
Miquel Vico
Recentlly re-watched, love how Aubrey always refers to midshipman Blakeney as lord (him beina a duke) despite of his age, even when he is comforting him after the amputation.
Jove Joved
Difference with "Letters from Iwo Jima" is that no matter how much we got to know the primary Japanese characters as humans with their own motivations, the incoming Americans were still fighting for a just cause. In the book Far Side of the World, "preying" on British whalers would truly place Americans in a villainous position.
Extensive Enterprises
An important note would be that the film was supposed to start a franchise, and the material in this first one was drawn from 2 or 3 of the awesome 21 novels in O'Brien's series. The franchise didn't happen unfortunately.
Ihsan Ayyasy
i was so glad that i found your channel
Nolan St. John
I agree with your sentiment about American audiences. We could've handled it. I'm as die hard American as they come and it wouldn't have bothered me if the ship was American.  I didn't even see either side as good or bad.  They were just two sides in a conflict; neither right or wrong.
ZeVio74
Flag of our Father and Letter from Iwo Jima dude, since you mentioned the latter
Now or Never
Can you do a History Buff on the "Red October"?
TehGreekyGamer
Constitution is in Fallout 4 :D
Keith Dean
I've never seen Master and Commander but the comments remind me of Captain Horatio Hornblower (1951) starring Gregory Peck. Maybe the characters were inspired by the same people.
BK
So happy you have a review of this. This is my most favorite movie of all time.
Gerard Gillespie
the plot was taken from the old Robert Mitchum picture: The Enemy Below
RALF 08/15
Austerlitz and Tschenna? 🤣 Jena und Auerstedt. 1806. Against Preußen (Prussia) Austerlitz was in Dezember 1805, a Why are you anglophon peoples unable to speak names of foreign towns? For example when an English or American speaks the name of the German capitol it sounds like "Bööhrlin". Hilarious. We Germans can't stop laughing about it.😉
Boochi Man
Please do Titanic.
TheVenator
I feel like switching your flag is kinda low. I mean, its smart, but smart on the same level that cheating in a video game is. It gets you to win, (which is really all that matters in a life and death situation) but it doesnt take that much skill.
Acute Gryphon
I hate to be nit picky, but you said the USS Constitution fought in the Atlantic Ocean, but the battle actually happened in Lake Erie, of the Northern coast of Ohio, right there next to Put-In-Bay
bird718
the ship was built in America because thats the way the director/writers can reference the movie to the story without making the movie studios go ape shit.
keine031
"Great Britain at the time had the greatest navy in the world"... and now is becoming an islamic colony. Crazy how nature do that
Stephen Richards
BRING BACK THE OLD INTRO
VersusARCH
Are you seriously wondering why a ship made of oak endemic to USA was built in USA?
Daniel Apostol
Letter of Iwo Jima is a bad example. No-one expects the viewers to root for the Japanese and the outcome is clear since it is in a historic setting. That movie is more of a scripted documentary, you can't compare that to an old-fashioned adventure movie.
leaf12496
Bridish? bridish? really?.....FFS.